mood: moody

Wow...that's ridiculous. People and their zealous shipping, yikes. I love my fandoms much, but I don't go that far to prove why they should be canon. If they become canon, great, and if they don't, then oh well. It's sad how people's ideas of who needs to hook up with who blind them from the actual purpose and storyline of a series. You can have your pairings, so let me have mine. Just don't get up all in my face about them like this and don't twist the canon into something it's not. That's just ridiculous, even disrespectful if you want to go that far.

This is why fandom makes me cry. There are so many times where I just want to counter a lot of what they are saying, but I just sit back and let them debate with others. They are just merciless. Regardless of what you say, if it's against anything they say...well it's obviously wrong, and you don't read the manga.

I really used to love this fandom...and I never though I'd have to say this...but the NaruHina fandom is more tame then they are acting right now. It's just not fun anymore. D:

That's upsetting to hear, considering I'm fond of NaruSaku. Times like this all you can do is pull away and hope some point down the line they're realize how childish they're acting. Really. In the end, what do you gain when your two choice fictional characters become a couple? Does it really matter that much? It shouldn't, but it's hard to convince fanatics otherwise.

I just hate it when people can't enjoy things like I do, I guess. XD Regardless of outcomes, I'll just like it for what it is. I just hate dictatorship type fandoms. :/

I'll just love the pairing on my own. 8D

*headdesk* this is the main reason why I decided not to get into the whole NaruSaku/SasuSaku fandom. I like living in my own delusional world enjoying both pairings, just without the drama. at least what I can avoid.

people say episode 43 has a romantic moment? that makes me laugh XD

And you're probably better off not getting involved. T_____T All this crap makes me sad. I don't think I can really enjoy this pairing now unless I pull away from the fandom completely, so I'm doing just that.

Yeah...and they all expected it to be beautifully animated and whatnot. They're all complaining right now because that little NaruHina moment in ep 33 should be the anime style for the scene in ep 43. The animation isn't even half as bad...people just love complaining. -_-'

Yeah.. I considered joining the FC a while back, but just...turned back. XD

Really? I thought the animation was pretty for the most part in that episode. O_o I don't see anything bad about it.

The whole Naruto fandom is insane. people always find something to complain about. I can almost relate to what a friend of mine decided to do sometimes - wait until the whole series end, and then watch. XD

I'm sort of regretting joining that FC all together now. Too much drama for me.

I thought so too. And the voice acting was particularly good. I loved it.

Hahaha, I know. Sometimes I wish that I hadn't stumbled across the fandom in the first place. I never thought people would act so...dramatic over this stuff, and make it into a competition with everyone. XD

That's why I tend to stay away from people like that and stay in my own little world with my parings and having them do a lot of hot dirty sex. XDD

I liked the animation for episode 43 and I thought it look pretty.

In all honesty, Cosmo-san, I didn't really like the animation in episode 43. It wasn't the worst, but it wasn't the best either. It really DOES seems like they save of their good animation teams for NaruHina... X'D Episode 33 was wonderful, and you didn't see a backlash from us either.

I honestly don't know why they were/are complaining. Whatever happened to "The anime isn't canon!11!1"? Seriously. And our anti-NaruSaku banners? They ARE NOT attacking the fandom. My signature, is NOT attacking the fandom. They can not get over the fact that... well... we took it from canon. Sakura got bitch smacked. Maybe the truth hurts. =/

I ended up PMing Nick about the whole thing. Because I wasn't very happy with the NaruSaku fandom either. It started off with someone's (sad) attempt to copy the NaruHina Franchise (that's been going on for over a year), mocking certain members, and someone deciding to post an NS centered rant in all the anti clubs/SS/NS/NH clubs (even if his intentions were good). There's a lot of spam and bashing to go through in the fanclub, like... I love Nick, but I asked him to post something on pairing peace and the policies. Because obviously, some people don't understand. I think the NaruHina fc has been pretty well behaved, especially with the latest episode. Heck, even anti NaruSaku. We're not attacking the fandom, but the pairing, like we're SUPPOSED to do. When I saw them complaining about our banners, all I said was "...What? Shouldn't they be talking about the new episode?" - Then I saw they did, but were complaining about that too. =_=

lol I liked the episode, even if the quality was rather poor.

I don't think I'm being biased when I say anti-NaruSaku >>>>>> Anti-NaruHina/Anti-SasuSaku. Our banners... even NaruSaku fans have complimented them. And really...

Toilet paper...? *insert :sag emoticon here*

Copying us from time to time... At first it wasn't too bad (some were flattered), but now I find it annoying.

This episode made me even more confident on what we've (antiNS) been saying--Sakura ran out of guilt. Hence why saving Sasuke was mentioned. If Sakura was only running because she cared about Naruto, Sasuke would not have been mentioned. Naruto was never mentioned in the FoD scene. ;)There was no way that was as emotional as SasuSaku.... I'm sorry. Just, everything in NaruSaku ends in comedy (even their little 297 thing does), or is angst about Sasuke.

phoenixblood was hilarious:

My favorite part though was the earthquake announcement in the middle of the dramatic kyuubi-Sakura scene. I believe it said it wasn't a serious earthquake, and I hope no one was injured or worse in it, so let me just get that out. But I think it's funny that even the ground under Japan is against NaruSaku.

xDDDDDDD

I know you like the pairing and all, but they look better as friends and it doesn't need to go further. But hey, that's my opinion. ^^;

ON THE DATABOOKS!

Kishimoto and the Databook are wrong, remember?

Oh, wait. Data and Book. Insight on the manga. You know... the man who created it. And what of those MISLEADING fillers which have actually hinted towards future events in the manga... Uh... hm... yeah.... (I love how NaruHina and SasuSaku have so many outside sources. And how Naruto's crush on Sakura is not even MENTIONED in the Databook profile... Yet NaruHina is called a love story, and Sasuke and Sakura both have the goodbye scene in their profiles. "His words were real (...) Sakura, who needed him the most (...) Sakura was the one who fulfilled his loneliness but he can not let her in" Along those lines)

What I did like in episode 43 was Sakura thinking about how Naruto used to be. Because I think it's great how she changed her perspective of him. ^_^ However, it doesn't mean she loves him romantically. Because you know what? Sasuke grew to accept Sakura (Annoying->Important person), and Naruto grew to accept Hinata (Shy, dark, weirdo->Incredible->Person he really likes) It goes both ways.

Sorry for the long ass rant. xD

Ah, one more thing.

On 297, I'm amused by the fact it has never been brought up in the manga again. Ever. Because NaruSaku is so light and vague, I find it hard to take seriously. =/

When some people say that we shouldn't compare the KN4 scene to the CS scene (despite it being an EXACT parallel with the panels) because Naruto wasn't himself, I find that funny, because Sakura literally states in the CS scene "This isn't... this isn't... this isn't Sasuke-kun!" (or the Sasuke-kun I know) =_=

Success vs Failure. Take your pick. just like how the blood vow was successful and the promise of a lifetime wasn't. hear hear!

Yeah, it's one thing that always bothered me about that scene. It's why I don't take it as seriously as the other NaruSaku fans. I mean, Hinata came back recently, and Kishimoto is constantly emphasizing her concern about Naruto. The scene was vague, that I can agree with.

I do agree with the fact that the KN4 scene is a parallel. I think the scene just showed she at least cared, and that she had good intentions. That's all that matters to me.

The animation wasn't great, and I acknowledge that. I liked the scene for what it was because I like the fact that Sakura would go that far for both her team mates. I was happy to see it animated, and I thought the voice acting was great. My major problem with the NaruSaku fandom is the fact that they are so negative about everything. They turned the entire episode into a nightmare, didn't care about the fact that the manga was still there. They were just ugly, and it made me sad. I remember when I first joined the fandom a long time ago. It wasn't all like this, and the fans were a bit more tamed then they are now. I feel ashamed of being a NaruSaku fan. We aren't all that insane. But now things are completely different, and it's influenced me to just leave the fandom in general. I can't stand being part of the group right now. It's given me such a negative view of NaruSaku.

To be honest, I think the ANS banners are hilarious, and very clever. They aren't attacking any fans, so don't worry about it. I think some people just have issues. >.>;

I know you don't see NaruSaku the same that I do, but a majority of my initial liking of NaruSaku stemmed from Part I, not so much part II. But even then, I'm just fine with them ending as friends. I don't feel like I'm a hardcore NaruSaku fan like I once was. There was just something about it that made me feel hopeful. Probably a great deal of that liking came from Naruto vs Gaara. He put his heart into that fight and the whole way through, he was concerned about Sakura. I loved the fact that he didn't stop fighting until Sasuke told him Sakura was okay. But I do see what you're saying, and understand why you'd have your views and all. Like I said, at the moment, NaruSaku isn't an obvious end right now because they aren't focused on each other. They are focused on Sasuke.

Haha, I like rants, so it's all good to me.

It's really sad when a fandom can ruin it for you, especially a fandom for something you love immensely. But I will be 100% honest with you. NaruSaku's fandom has a HUGE hand in me hating the pairing as much as I do. I honestly think I hate the pairing more than I used to hate yaoi 10 years ago (now I'm a yaoi fangirl^_^). But I have certainly noticed an evolution of the fandom over the past 3 years. You would think that with a growing fandom, the analysis would get better, but it has just gotten worse with time.

I used to debate. But it has gone from that to not even venturing into a debate thread anymore. Why the hell bother? People spend too much time trying to belittle bonds and characters, preventing them from actually accepting the fact that said character is here, isn't going anywhere, and will not be used for the negative intentions they wish. I think NaruSaku is a possibility. No matter how much I flat out can't stand the pairing, I can admit it. But at the same time, I have not forgotten the other possibilities Kishi's presented us with. It may be because I prefer those that I have not forgotten, but the fact remains that Kishi hasn't forgotten either (how could he? He put it there). The sooner people start accepting that there are different roads Kishi could take, the better. The issue starts when people act like their pairing is set in stone. NONE of the big 3 are set in stone. And for all we know, Kishi may NEVER set them in stone, which I could honestly live with.

You know, if they could have convinced me of how team 7's bonds could still be completely even by dissolving a romantic aspect of one bond to stick it on another, I think I'd be much more accepting. But as I said before, their level of character butchery (ie: Sasuke's an evil sucky bastard and Sakura needs to move on from a stupid crush), selective memory, and lack of ATTEMPT at a more in-depth and reasonable analysis makes me unable to consider it as THE optimal choice. And even if Kishi makes it canon, fandom has sullied any opportunity of me ever liking it.

Make no mistake, I do enjoy that Naruto and Sakura are great friends now. But I'm all about the strength of team 7 here, and I feel like pairings fans don't seem to care enough about that like they should. It's a team of three (plus Kakashi), not two with that other one off to the side :-/.

I've begun to dislike NaruSaku now...mainly because of the fandom and how they portray the pairing. I hate having to be like that...I want to lie pairings for what they are, and not the fandoms associated with them. I did that with NaruHina and SasuSaku, but then I changed my opinion, and as soon as I joined the fandom, I felt more welcome and the fans for the most part were a lot tamer then NaruSaku fans let on. I would have hoped that a bigger fandom would mean that there was more acceptance and happiness, but it's the complete opposite.

I don't bother debating on NF. People are too hardcore for me there, and at least from the NaruSaku standpoint...all they do is belittle your intelligence and try to pathetically counter. I hate that...so immature the debates. -_-;

And that's fine. I don't mind people disliking NaruSaku, they can hate it all they want. Doesn't bother me. I still like bits and pieces of it. I honestly think that the fandom has completely destroyed the moments for me though. It makes me sad cause I wanted to believe that the NS fandom was at once mature and understanding...I guess it just never was and I was blinded.

I'm just glad you changed your opinion on NaruHina and the fandom... I'm happy to know what you originally thought of us wasn't true. Makes me proud as a fandom leader, I guess. xD

Well, NaruHina and SasuSaku do have bigger fandoms. X'D

It's fine to like a pairing. But when the fandom starts making you hate it, then that says something is wrong there.

I don't have an account here yet, but I am on this website all the time looking at friend's accounts so I'm not a complete newbie. I agree whole-heartedly. I am a HUGE narusaku fan but I think everyone has a right to have an opinion without it getting bombarded by haters. Kishimoto is an ARTIST, and art should be left up to interpretation. Way 2 go for having a firm but non-offensive (in my humble opinion) stand on this on going and constant issue. One thing I'd like you to know, however, is that the:

Not intruding at all, so don't worry. I love all the big three pairings. The reason I'm addressing the NaruSaku fandom in particular is because there's been such a change from what I remember when I first became a part of it. It's sad to think about it.

I know that it goes on in all fandoms. All fandoms have their tards, it's just that I always thought the NaruSaku fandom had a bit more...maturity? I guess. But recently they've become more aggressive, and it gets annoying when all I want to do is just enjoy the pairing for what it's worth. D:

Aww! Thanks about the icons. That was very nice of you. ♥

I love you ;___;

I never really liked Narusaku, but the fandom did cement my hate. :D

I'm glad it still has some sane fans, like you. I remember the fandom used to be quiet and friendly before.

Now they are worse than the NH fandom .__.

But don't let the fandom ruin it for you :3

*hugs BC*

I love you too. ♥

It's alright, NaruSaku is beginning to wear on me as days go by. The fandom was completely different, and I was content on whatever ended up happening to them.

They seriously are, and back then I didn't think such a thing was possible. D: I'm trying not to let fandom get to me, which is why I just stepped back entirely from the fandom.

*hugs gabzy*

I noticed the change in the fandom. .__. I always hated the pairing, but I was pretty neutral to the fans before I got into NF.

*hugs back*